From drichard at largo.com  Mon Nov 17 14:19:00 2003
From: drichard at largo.com (David Richards)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:19:00 -0500
Subject: [nas] Helix-->NAS
Message-ID: <1069103940.4742.13.camel@oa3>

The Helix player (Open Sourced Real Player) seems to work with the
libaudio library to a NAS device.  I'm able to play a .ram file over the
network to my thin client.  It's not perfect, but not too bad.   It has
a nice GNOME front end around it now as well, and those of you with NCD
terminals, they have fixed the Endian bugs.

Check it out-->

www.helixcommunity.org

Dave



From curious at pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl  Tue Nov 18 05:36:17 2003
From: curious at pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl (Bob Arctor)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:36:17 +0100
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS
Message-ID: <20031118133617.467a9849.curious@pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl>

hey. i am lame coder, but i found workaround to make simple compression using netcat and mpg123 :)
netcat -l -p 666 | mpg123 
on 'server' side
and cat anything.wav | lame -b32 - - | netcat [server ip] 666
plays the sound :)

using sox and oggenc one can make simple hi-quality netphone, and so on... 

now i only wonder how to force 'usual' apps to send data to codec | netcat.
indeed open(/dev/dsp) is a no-no ..


i wonder about using something like esd or jackd to send data to codec and netcat...

the main idea is modularity - one can use i.e. sox and gzip , or whatever comes to your mind 


From jon at radscan.com  Wed Nov 19 13:15:18 2003
From: jon at radscan.com (Jon Trulson)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:15:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS
In-Reply-To: <20031118133617.467a9849.curious@pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl>
References: <20031118133617.467a9849.curious@pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0311191313040.15162-100000@m5.radscan.com>

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Bob Arctor wrote:

> From: Bob Arctor <curious at pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl>
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:36:17 +0100
> Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS
> To: nas at radscan.com
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
> 	version=2.60
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>
> hey. i am lame coder, but i found workaround to make simple compression using netcat and mpg123 :)
> netcat -l -p 666 | mpg123
> on 'server' side
> and cat anything.wav | lame -b32 - - | netcat [server ip] 666
> plays the sound :)
>
> using sox and oggenc one can make simple hi-quality netphone, and so on...
>

	Interesting... I would think the encode/ecode latency would be a
problem though (at least for something like a netphone anyway)...

> now i only wonder how to force 'usual' apps to send data to codec | netcat.
> indeed open(/dev/dsp) is a no-no ..
>

	Perhaps Erik's libaudiooss library might help there?  With some
hackery I suspect...
>
> i wonder about using something like esd or jackd to send data to codec and netcat...
>
> the main idea is modularity - one can use i.e. sox and gzip , or whatever comes to your mind
>

-- 
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From knan at mo.himolde.no  Wed Nov 19 14:45:09 2003
From: knan at mo.himolde.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Inge_Bols=F8?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:45:09 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0311191313040.15162-100000@m5.radscan.com>
References: <20031118133617.467a9849.curious@pb194.luban.sdi.tpnet.pl>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50.0311191313040.15162-100000@m5.radscan.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56-Maildir.0311192241560.19158@yme.midgardsormen.net>

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Jon Trulson wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Bob Arctor wrote:
>> now i only wonder how to force 'usual' apps to send data to codec | netcat.
>> indeed open(/dev/dsp) is a no-no ..
>
>	Perhaps Erik's libaudiooss library might help there?  With some
>hackery I suspect...

Indeed. But cat audio >/dev/dsp hasn't worked for some time, something
changed in recent libcs and I haven't worked out what the new trick is.
open() should work just fine, however.

--
Erik I. Bols? | email: <knan at mo.himolde.no>
The UNIX philosophy basically involves giving you enough rope to
hang yourself.  And then a couple of feet more, just to be sure.


From pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us  Wed Nov 19 16:31:41 2003
From: pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (Paul Fox)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:31:41 -0500
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS 
In-Reply-To: knan's message of Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:45:09 +0100.
             <Pine.LNX.4.56-Maildir.0311192241560.19158@yme.midgardsormen.net> 
Message-ID: <23316.1069284701@foxharp.boston.ma.us>

 > Indeed. But cat audio >/dev/dsp hasn't worked for some time, something

sigh.  really?  why can't people keep simple unix semantics
working?  just because everything is cumbersome and opaque on
other popular operating systems isn't an excuse to break what's
good under unix...  :-/

paul
=---------------------
 paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 54.5 degrees)


From knan at mo.himolde.no  Thu Nov 20 01:27:38 2003
From: knan at mo.himolde.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Inge_Bols=F8?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:27:38 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS 
In-Reply-To: <23316.1069284701@foxharp.boston.ma.us>
References: <23316.1069284701@foxharp.boston.ma.us>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56-Maildir.0311200926510.2694@yme.midgardsormen.net>

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Paul Fox wrote:
> > Indeed. But cat audio >/dev/dsp hasn't worked for some time, something
>
>sigh.  really?  why can't people keep simple unix semantics
>working?  just because everything is cumbersome and opaque on
>other popular operating systems isn't an excuse to break what's
>good under unix...  :-/

Hey, cheer up! It works in the general case, just not under my lib, the
evil trick I was using doesn't work anymore :)

--
Erik I. Bols? | email: <knan at mo.himolde.no>
The UNIX philosophy basically involves giving you enough rope to
hang yourself.  And then a couple of feet more, just to be sure.


From pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us  Thu Nov 20 06:40:45 2003
From: pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (Paul Fox)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:40:45 -0500
Subject: [nas] mpg123/ogg123 + netcat instead of NAS 
In-Reply-To: knan's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:27:38 +0100.
             <Pine.LNX.4.56-Maildir.0311200926510.2694@yme.midgardsormen.net> 
Message-ID: <19854.1069335645@foxharp.boston.ma.us>

 > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Paul Fox wrote:
 > > > Indeed. But cat audio >/dev/dsp hasn't worked for some time, something
 > >
 > >sigh.  really?  why can't people keep simple unix semantics
 > >working?  just because everything is cumbersome and opaque on
...
 > Hey, cheer up! It works in the general case, just not under my lib, the
 > evil trick I was using doesn't work anymore :)

ah.  whew.  thanks.  :-)

paul
=---------------------
 paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 41.9 degrees)


